Showing posts with label cord blood gases. Show all posts
Showing posts with label cord blood gases. Show all posts

Friday, October 5, 2012

Cord blood gases trivial answers

Now, let's see how well you did on trivia questions from earlier today.  The answers are in red.

Let's see how much you guys have been paying attention to my blog. What follows are two cord blood gases and a few questions:

A.
  • pH 7.36
  • CO2 42.8
  • PO2 33.7
  • SO2 80.5
  • FO2Hb 75.7
  • HCO3 23.8
  • BE -1.1
B.
  • pH 7.27
  • CO2 58.8
  • PO2 12.3
  • SO2 19.5
  • FO2Hb 18.8
  • HCO3 26.3
  • BE -1.3
Questions

1. Which one of the above is arterial and which one is venous?  B is venous and A is Arterial

2. Are these results normal or critical?  Normal

3. What did you use for the basis to answer question #2? Or, how do you determine if a cord blood gas is critical?  pH is greater than 7.1.  If the pH is less than 7.1 it shows the baby probably took an anoxic hit during delivery and didn't have time to recover prior to birth.  A pH of greater than 7.1 shows the baby may have taken an anoxic hit, but it occurred prior to delivery and the baby had time to recover.  

4. If you can only draw venous or arterial from the cord, which would you rather have: venous or arterial? Arterial. This is blood from the mom.  

5. Do cord blood gases have clinical significance?  No.  They are used for litigation purposes only to prove the baby did or did not take an anoxic hit during the delivery.  Arterial blood gases get doctors off the hook in about 75 percent of cases.  

Test: Cord Blood Gases

Let's see how much you guys have been paying attention to my blog. What follows are two cord blood gases and a few questions:

A.
  • pH 7.36
  • CO2 42.8
  • PO2 33.7
  • SO2 80.5
  • FO2Hb 75.7
  • HCO3 23.8
  • BE -1.1
B.
  • pH 7.27
  • CO2 58.8
  • PO2 12.3
  • SO2 19.5
  • FO2Hb 18.8
  • HCO3 26.3
  • BE -1.3
Questions

1. Which one of the above is arterial and which one is venous?

2. Are these results normal or critical?

3. What did you use for the basis to answer question #2? Or, how do you determine if a cord blood gas is critical?

4. If you can only draw venous or arterial from the cord, which would you rather have: venous or arterial?

5. Do cord blood gases have clinical significance?

I will provide the answers at 1900 tonight, or you can find them in this post.  Share your answers in the comments below, if you're confident.  And so you know, I asked these same questions to all my coworkers, and not one of them got the right answers.

Wednesday, March 10, 2010

Cord blood gases: Here's all you need to know

Every respiratory therapist dreads having to draw cord blood gases, and all OB nurses dread the circumstances that require them to be drawn. So, that said, what are the indications for drawing cord blood gases, what is the significance of drawing them, and why do we draw them in the first place?

Basically, the reason we draw cord blood gases is in case their is a lawsuit that might take place years down the road accusing the delivering doctor of causing an anoxic brain injury that resulted in diseases such as cerebral palsy.

The cord blood can prove that neurological deficits that develop in infants were caused by an anoxic brain injury that occurred after delivery or before delivery and was not the result of an anoxic episode at birth. The cord blood gas has been shown to be proof positive in about 80% of the cases (According to PubMed.com), and has in many cases cleared physicians from litigation.

A cord blood gas does not need to be drawn unless a baby is born has a low APGAR score within 5 minutes of delivery, such as a 3 or less. When the APGAR score is low a cord blood gas should automatically be drawn.

When we refer to cord blood we are referring to blood drawn from the placenta after delivery. If you look at a placental cord (see picture) you will see one large vein surrounded by two arteries that wrap around the vein.

According to PubMed.com, the Umbilical Vein delivers freshly oxygenated blood from the mom to the baby. Since an anoxic brain injury in baby in not likely to change the pH of the Umbilical Vein, this is not where you will want to draw a cord gas from.

The Umbilical Artery is where the baby's venous circulation dumps unoxygenated blood. This is blood that was on its way back to the mom's heart and lungs to pick up oxygen. Thus, when you draw a cord gas for litigation purposes you will want to draw from one of the two Umbilical Arteries.

Blood from the Umbilical Artery is called a Cord Arterial Blood Gas (CABG), and basically shows how the baby was doing prior to birth.

From this blood we want to watch for acidosis. Since anaerobic metabolism occurs during the absence of oxygen, the acid base balance (pH) of the baby's body increases due to increase in the amount of lactic acid produced. Therefore pH is the most important indicator in the CABG.

If the pH of the CABGis above 7.10, then we know that the baby was not hypoxic during the delivery, and if there was a hypoxic episode it occurred prior to the delivery process. It may have occurred weeks or months prior to birth, or it may have occured hours before birth. Either way, this proves the episode did not occur as a result of the delivery and should clear the physician of litigation.

If the pH is less than 7.10 the episode was more likely acute and the episode may have occurred during the delivery. If the pH is greater than 7.10, the episode typically occurred before the delivery.

According to obgyn.org, Some experts believe a pH of 7.0 with a significant metabolic component is a more significant sign of asphyxia at birth, and may lead to significant neurological dysfunction during life, or possibly even death.

Also according to obgy.org, "Even when this low pH threshold is used to define significant acidemia, most newborns in this category will be neurologically normal, with no apparent morbidity."

The baby's at greatest risk of anoxic brain injury are premature infants, according to obgyn.org. They are at higher risk of "intracranial hemorrhage and subsequent neurological dysfunction, such as cerebral palsy. Without umbilical cord blood gas analysis, these neurological complications could be incorrectly attributed to intrapartum or birth asphyxia, especially if the latter is solely based on APGAR scores. Normal umbilical cord blood values in the premature infant virtually eliminate the diagnosis of significant intrapartum hypoxia or birth asphyxia."

So, ideally, you will want the pH to be normal. If it is normal and there is an anoxic brain injury the doctor can prove by the CABG results that since the pH had time to return to normal the injury occurred prior to delivery and the injury did not occur as a result of delivery. If the pH less than 7.1 chances are the injury occurred during delivery.

Once a CABG has been drawn it can be set aside. Most studies now show that a CABG does not need to be placed on ice, and is good for up to an hour.

  • pH: 7.28 (+/-.5)
  • pCO2: 49 (+/-8)
  • pO2: 18 (+/- 6.2)
  • HCO3: 2.5-3.5
  • BE: 10
Critical values that might show anoxic brain injury during birth (acidosis):
  • pH less than 7.0
  • CO2 greater than 50
  • PO2 variable (remember this is the baby's venous blood, so the PO2 is relatively low)
  • BE is normal or low (10 or less)
Critical values that might show injury due to metabolic cause:
  • pH less low (less than 7.25, critical is 7.10 as mentioned above)
  • PO2 less than 20
  • CO2 is normal or high
  • BE greater than 10 (Best indicator of metabolic cause
The following are conditions that would warrant a CABG:
  • Any abnormality during delivery process
  • Low 5 minutes APGAR score (less than 3)
  • Any abnormality in patient condition that occurs within 1st 5 minutes after birth
  • Premature birth
  • Post term birth
  • Meconium in amniotic fluid
  • Intubation
  • Positive pressure ventilation (Neo-puff or bag mask ventilation)
  • Suctioning
  • Cesarean-section
  • Severe growth retardation
  • abnormal fetal heart rate tracing
  • maternal thyroid disease
  • intrapartum fever
  • multifetal gestation
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Thursday, February 12, 2009

Some things should not be the job of the RT

I see the respiratory therapist as a member of the overall team of medical professionals who does his part in making a patient more comfortable or, if it comes to it, providing his expertise and skill in an attempt to save the life or improve the quality of a patent's life.

I suppose it's for that reason that I do not enjoy doing procedures just because a doctor orders it. I flinch when a bronchodilator breathing treatment is ordered on someone just because he or she is short of breath, or just out of a routine of the doctor -- or per his protocol.

Likewise, I flinch when I'm asked to do cord blood gases. The only reason this procedure is done is after a difficult birth because the doctor wants it documented that the gases were normal in case of a law suit. I do not see the RT as someone who does services just to prevent the doctor from being sued.

Thus, if a doctor wants a cord blood gas, he should draw it himself. After all, the RT had to be taken from the bedside of a person who was having difficulty breathing to draw the cord gas.

This is also why I'm anti doing EKGs on patients just because the doctor wants to make sure he covered all his grounds just in case the patient decides to sue.

That's also why I think doing Holter Monitors in the ER is not the job of the RT.

I'm not saying these things don't need to be done. What I'm saying is it should not be the job of the RT on duty.

Now, say, the doctor asked the RT kindly if he'd do these things, I'm sure he would oblige if he wasn't overly busy.

Yet, be it as it may, we do as we are told. We do things we do not approve and we do it with a smile. And then we blog about it in a wry or flippant way.